The numbers are very similar to what Dr. Smart said. We're talking about a 50% increase, but there's a difference. There's a difference between feeling burnt out, as in just wanting to hide underneath a desk or in a corner, and the over 30% who need clinical mental help. That's where we're seeing a big lack, because there's a lack of services everywhere. That's not only impacting the productivity, because when we survey nurses, they do say the care they're trying to give is good, but there's not enough of them. What it does say is that they want to get out. Again, that's why we need to look at retention.
Out west, from Manitoba up, we have registered psychiatric nurses, again in a different role on the Prairies, to do with mental health. We need to be innovative everywhere across Canada in terms of how we're going to deal with mental health, both for those giving the services in health care and for those other Canadians who need it.