Evidence of meeting #12 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was immigration.
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Conservative
Liberal
Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON
It is requesting the university to appear and let them know that there is power to summons.
Liberal
Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON
There is summonsing power, basically. I don't believe we, as a committee, have sent a letter for U of T to appear. Is that correct?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
The letter did not say that we have the power to summons if they don't appear; it just asked them to appear.
You are saying to write another letter saying that we have the power to summons them if they don't appear. That's what I understand the amendment to be.
Liberal
Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON
That's correct. It's to have that option. Again, to Dr. Powlowski's point, we ought to use the summonsing power judiciously, carefully, as a committee. I would suggest that we send a letter with that condition and see if they respond.
Thank you.
Conservative
Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB
What is the actual wording of the amendment, if the clerk could repeat that?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
It would say that we write a letter to the person you specifically mentioned, stating that we will ask them to appear, and if they don't, we have the power as a committee to summons them.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
We're not voting at the moment.
Are there any other speakers on the amendment?
I will call the question on the amendment.
All those in favour?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
I beg your pardon. It is an amendment. You just heard it. I just read it to you, Mr. Mazier.
We deal with the amendment before we deal with the motion. Then, if the motion is amended, we vote on the motion as amended. If the motion is not amended, we vote on the motion as it is.
We are dealing with the amendment now. Ms. Chi read it out, and I read out Ms. Chi's amendment, subsequently.
We have the vote on the amendment since there are no other speakers left on the amendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
If there are any further speakers on the original motion, I will entertain speakers.
Mr. Powlowski, please go ahead.
Liberal
Marcus Powlowski Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON
We're cutting corners, and we didn't actually write out the amendment. I would suggest that the amendment—and this is speaking to the original motion—perhaps suggest more specifically.... The amendment would be this: If, having asked the university representative to appear before the committee—
Liberal
Marcus Powlowski Liberal Thunder Bay—Rainy River, ON
If, having asked the university representative to appear and notifying the university representative that the committee has the legal power to summons, the university representative refuses, then you summons them.
Your idea is still in. It's the fallback that, if they refuse to appear, with the notice, we have the power to summons them.
If the opposition says that it was substantively the same as the last motion, then...okay.
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
We don't have to vote. We can adjourn.
An adjournment is not debatable, Mr. Mazier.
I'm calling the vote on the adjournment.
Conservative
November 18th, 2025 / 1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry
Mr. Mazier, the rules are clear. There is no debate on a motion to adjourn.
