Health Committee on Nov. 18th, 2025

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I just called the vote. You interrupted me while I was doing that, Mr. Mazier. Thank you.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

You had the gavel. Let's vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I had the gavel because—

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

We're voting on—

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Mr. Mazier, I called the vote. Please don't interrupt me again.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Okay.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

Now, there's a vote. For those who decide that we should continue, we first need to find out whether we have the resources to continue. A committee meeting does not go on ad infinitum. It has to have the resources to continue.

Before you vote on this, I will ask the clerk if we have the resources to continue.

[The Clerk of the Committee, Catherine Ngando Edimo]

We do.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

For how long do we have the resources to continue?

[The Clerk]

Three hours.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

All right. We have the resources to continue.

(Motion negatived)

The meeting continues as long as the clerk says that we have time.

Go ahead.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

I would just call the vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Do you want to vote on the motion?

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Yes: to summons the university.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

All right.

Sorry, Madam Chi, you have—

[Maggie Chi, Liberal, Don Valley North, ON]

I thought Marcus had an amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

His amendment was deemed to be substantively the same as yours, which was voted down.

[Maggie Chi, Liberal, Don Valley North, ON]

I missed that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We're voting on the amendment—

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

No. It's on the motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I'm sorry. We're voting on the motion as unamended, the original motion.

Would somebody like to read it out once more so that everybody knows what they're voting for?

Mr. Mazier, please go ahead.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

It reads as follows:

That, given that representatives from the University of Toronto's faculty of medicine have refused to appear at the committee's study on the impact of immigration policy on health care, despite at least three separate invitations, the committee summon the associate dean for postgraduate medical education, Dr. Meredith Giuliani, to appear for one hour, in person, within two weeks of the adoption of this motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I want to ask the clerk a question. The motion is very specific, and I want to know if indeed this particular witness was asked three times.

Madam Clerk, please go ahead.

[The Clerk]

They were invited three times: October 20, November 4 and November 20.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Good. I just wanted to clarify, because the motion is very specific. Thank you.

We'll now call the vote.