Evidence of meeting #29 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was infoway.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Batchvarov  Vice-President, Provider Solutions, Telus Health
Green  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway
Voisin  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Policy Branch, Department of Health
Jones  Director, Digital Health and Health System Division, Department of Health
Toller  Director General, Health Care Strategies Directorate, Department of Health

5:20 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

Thank you for the question. As I mentioned, it's not an individual or a single group that makes those decisions; it's a decision that comes from the governance of the organization and the board. The decision to use an open standard was made in November-December 2025.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Who authorized the continuation of the program after December 2025?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

The process for transitioning from PrescribeIT to the open standards was approved by the board of directors at the same time.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

The board of directors continued to say that the program should continue even though it wasn't viable.

Is that correct?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

In preparation for moving towards an open standard approach, it was necessary to have an orderly wind-down of the e-prescribing service as we ramp up with an open standard approach. There was a notice period given to partners to allow them to make the adjustment from one technology to the other.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you. We've gone over time on this.

I'm now going to the second round. It's a five-minute round.

It's Ms. Konanz for five minutes, please.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you, Chair.

First of all, I want to say quickly, Mr. Green, it's very important that you answer these questions succinctly and that you actually answer them. If you do not answer the questions the committee members ask, you will be asked to return. Answer succinctly, please, as I have five minutes.

Was Telus the lowest bid for PrescribeIT?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

Regarding the question of whether Telus was the lowest bid—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Yes or no—

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

—I can't give you a complete answer to that, because it was based on—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Can we table that, then? If you don't have the answer, you can table that.

For my next question, was the $250 million in tax dollars well spent?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

I believe that the money was spent appropriately and according to the governance of the organization, as well as that we have a valuable asset being put in place that will bear fruit in the future.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you.

How widely was PrescribeIT adopted? Do you have the raw numbers, the percentage of prescriptions that went through?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

As you know, I mentioned the 95% uptake by vendors and pharmacies—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

It's 95% of all vendors.

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

The figures of the prescriptions that went through are in the millions. If the committee would like to see a report of the figures, we can provide it.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Yes. Every question I ask is the committee asking, so yes, that's great. You're going to table those numbers. Thank you.

It was promised that PrescribeIT would be financially self-sustaining. Was it?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

The initial program was designed to become self-sustaining through a pathway of fees that were charged—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

The goal was to be—the goal—but it never was...?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

At that stage, the throughput of the system didn't cover the cost—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

That was the $250 million. Okay.

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

—from a self-sustaining perspective.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

We know that you eventually developed a fee of 20¢ per prescription. How much did the federal government collect in total on the fee from health care professionals?

5:25 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Health Infoway

Michael Green

The fee was levied against pharmacies, not health care professionals, and—

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

How much was levied?