Evidence of meeting #32 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cfia.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

S. Kochhar  President, Canadian Food Inspection Agency
Reimer  Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

You have two minutes and 14 seconds.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you.

That brings me back to my questions, Ms. Reimer.

The pharmaceutical and life sciences sector task force is made up of many big pharma representatives.

Was the Public Health Agency of Canada consulted on who would be part of this recently created government task force?

5:15 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

I'm sorry, but can I ask you to clarify which working group you are referring to?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I'm going to stop the watch and give the time back to Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

In March, the government created the pharmaceutical and life sciences sector task force.

I want to know whether the agency was consulted on the task force.

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

Any consultation would have occurred before I began in the role. That is something I will have to ask the agency, as I would not have been part of it at that time.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Ms. Reimer, do you think it's appropriate for this key round table to have pharmaceutical industry representatives, but no patient representatives or independent experts?

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

Again, I'm sorry, but can you clarify the question?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I'll stop the watch.

Mr. Blanchette-Joncas, go ahead, please.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I know these aren't easy questions.

The task force is made up solely of pharmaceutical industry representatives.

The makeup of the task force isn't balanced. Patients and even independent experts aren't represented on the task force. Do you think that could undermine how they view the situation?

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

Thank you so much for the clarification.

Regarding the committee, this is not something that is within my mandate. I am very happy to speak to other issues, but I don't have the background to be able to speak to that committee specifically.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

All right.

How much time do I have left, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

You have 45 seconds.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Reimer, in the economic update it released this week, the government talks about food security, affordability, groceries and food production. We also see that spending on government operations is being cut.

Has the Public Health Agency of Canada measured the potential impact on public health capacity, given this reduction in the resources it has to operate properly?

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

My understanding is that some of the previous financial commitments for running the Public Health Agency of Canada were reinforced in this economic update. However, the agency did go through a workforce adjustment prior to my taking on the role, so that has already occurred in the agency with respect to their budget.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you, Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

We will go to the next round, and we will start with Mr. Mazier for five minutes.

Please go ahead.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Thank you, Chair.

Welcome, Dr. Reimer. Congratulations on your new position as Canada's chief public health officer—good for you.

I'll start with a simple question. Is consuming illegal fentanyl safe, yes or no?

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

The toxic drug crisis is a complex situation, and it requires a complex response—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

It was a pretty simple question.

Is consuming illegal fentanyl safe, yes or no?

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

While I understand the question, I believe that it is a complex question that requires a more complex answer, which I would be happy to provide, but—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

You can't—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Let her finish first, Mr. Mazier.

I have stopped the watch. I would ask Dr. Reimer to finish off, and then we'll start the watch.

Go ahead, please, Dr. Reimer.

5:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Joss Reimer

The consumption of any medication or drug, illegal or legal, is—

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

That wasn't the question, though. It was a very simple question.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I'm not going to stop the watch.

Go on, Mr. Mazier.