Evidence of meeting #33 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Vaughan  Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway
El-Demerdash  President, Telus Health
Ensor  Strategic Advisor, Canada Health Infoway

6 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

I support what my colleague just said. It really is respecting her timelines, but she needs to be available for this committee, and that should be before we stop sitting for the summer. I and, I think, all Canadians would appreciate her coming to this committee and explaining what happened with PrescribeIT.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Gill, do you wish to speak?

Harb Gill Conservative Windsor West, ON

Chair, we are here to shine a light on what happened. We're talking about $300 million. This is not chump change. This is where hard-working people, without question, paid their taxes. They deserve answers, and the least the minister can do is to find some time to get here and answer those questions. This is not an unreasonable request.

To put it off indefinitely, by more than a month or two, is absolutely unacceptable. This is not what the Canadian people expect or, more importantly, deserve. There has to be a time frame set out to say when she can come in and what we need from her.

Two months is more than enough, especially after what we've heard today. I would humbly pray to you and to the colleagues on the other side to please find a way in your hearts to go tell the Minister of Health to come back and testify here, along with officials from the treasury secretariat.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

The motion is out of order, but I let it go.

Let's take a vote and get the amendment out of the way.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

I have a point of order.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Section 12.12 says that an amendment is out of order procedurally if it originates with the mover of the main motion.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

I have a point of order.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I move that motion. Would that put it back in order? Okay, so I move it.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Thank you. Is there any more debate?

6 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

It's back to....

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Shall we suspend?

Some hon. members

Yes.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Okay. Should we let the witnesses go?

We are already past time, so I will release the witnesses. Thank you very much, on behalf of the committee, for your participation.

The meeting is suspended.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I call the meeting back to order. Is there is any debate on the amendment?

If not, we'll—

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Just for clarification, what is the amendment?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

It's the amendment that you proposed.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Just to bring the audience back up to speed here, this is actually to remove...so that there are no timelines on the minister for coming to committee.

If you could, read what the amendment is actually doing. Is it basically no timeline?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

It's no timeline.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

It's just to get the minister in here with no timeline.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Is everybody clear?

An hon. member

No, I thought Maxime Blanchette-Joncas introduced—

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

He introduced an amendment.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

He cannot bring in the amendment because that amendment is out of order. He is the mover of the main motion, so he cannot bring in the amendment.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Here's the amendment. I'll read it. It's that, given the committee believes in transparency and accountability for Canadian taxpayers, the committee summon Michael Green, former president and CEO of Canada Health Infoway, to testify on PrescribeIT within three weeks of adoption of the motion.

An hon. member

No, that's not what we're talking about.