Evidence of meeting #33 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Vaughan  Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway
El-Demerdash  President, Telus Health
Ensor  Strategic Advisor, Canada Health Infoway

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Thank you, Chair.

Dr. Vaughan, how was Mr. Green informed that he was fired as CEO from Canada Health Infoway?

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

I informed him virtually, by technology.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Virtually...? Could we get a copy of that letter? I guess there was some kind of written.... More so, we want to know why he was fired, so the detail.... He must have been given a reason. It would be great if we could get that.

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

We can provide that.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Dr. Vaughan, according to Health Canada's Infoway documents, $167 million was spent on operations and overhead costs for PrescribeIT, of which $108 million was for personnel costs. Will you be able to table a full breakdown of those personnel costs with the committee?

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

If the committee wants that information....

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Dr. Vaughan, according to page 24 of Infoway's 2024-25 annual report, there were three instances of Canada Health Infoway entering into contribution agreements with entities funded by the Government of Canada, dated April 1, 2020, January 24, 2022, and January 31, 2025.

Can you identify these entities?

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

I'm not sure what the question is.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I'm going to stop the watch and ask the honourable member to repeat the question.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

There were three contribution agreements, and they were instances where Canada Health Infoway entered into three contribution agreements with entities funded by the Government of Canada, dated April 1, 2020, January 24, 2022, and January 31, 2025.

Can you identify these entities? If you could table them, that would be great.

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

We'd be happy to table that if that's what the committee needs or wants.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Thank you.

Dr. Vaughan, are any of the executives at Canada Health Infoway provided with a driver, a vehicle or a car allowance?

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

The only individual who had a car allowance was the former CEO.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Could you table his compensation with that, with the model of the car and how many dollars he was actually paid for that vehicle?

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

We can do that. It's all part of his package of remuneration.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I guess that was on top of the $900,000.

5:30 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

No. It was included in that.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Okay.

Dr. Vaughan, since PrescribeIT launched in 2017, how many times has the Infoway board awarded executives the maximum possible performance bonuses, versus a reduced bonus or no bonus?

5:35 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

Because the Canada Health Infoway PrescribeIT program did achieve its milestones and did deliver on its mandate, the remuneration was consistent with the fact that they did deliver the program.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Thank you.

I'll pass my remaining time off to Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Blanchette-Joncas, go ahead. You have two minutes and five seconds.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Thank you.

Dr. Vaughan, since you became chair of the board of Canada Health Infoway in March 2017, have you ever had meetings with ministers or members of the government regarding concerns about the viability, adoption or success of PrescripTIon, yes or no?

5:35 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

There have been several conversations with various ministers of health.

Maxime Blanchette-Joncas Bloc Rimouski—La Matapédia, QC

Did those meetings take place before the decision was made to end the program, yes or no?

5:35 p.m.

Board Chair, Canada Health Infoway

Peter Vaughan

Because we were concerned about the funding, obviously, of the program, there were many conversations before and after.