Evidence of meeting #5 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Marjorie Michel  Minister of Health
Orencsak  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Weber  Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health
Hamzawi  President, Public Health Agency of Canada

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

I'll call this meeting to order.

Welcome, everyone, to meeting number five of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Health.

Pursuant to the motion adopted on Tuesday, September 23, 2025, the committee shall commence with a briefing session with the Minister of Health and Health Canada officials.

I'd like to welcome our witnesses.

Minister, you will have five minutes for opening remarks, after which we will open the floor to questions.

As you've all noticed, I am the chair today. Our usual chair, Hedy Fry, is sick. I am going to be taking my questions from the chair today as well, if everyone is in agreement with that, instead of switching back and forth. Thank you.

Welcome, Minister.

11:05 a.m.

Papineau Québec

Liberal

Marjorie Michel LiberalMinister of Health

Thank you.

Mr. Chair, honourable members, thank you for inviting me today.

Having spoken with many of you over the last few months, I recognize the important work that you are all doing. I also recognize the important work you are doing as a committee.

Access to care and internationally educated health professionals is one of my priorities.

First of all, I believe it is important and fair to admit the biggest challenge we have inside our health care system is access to care. Too many people struggle to get inside the system and end up in the emergency room for non-urgent health care issues or worse, a problem that could have been treated earlier by a family physician or a group practice. We need to work in collaboration with provinces and territories to see how we can collectively make things better for patients. I know my provincial and territorial counterparts are working on increasing the number of professionals trained in their regions.

However, while the supply of professionals is increasing, demand is growing even faster.

About one third of internationally trained health professionals work in a different field. We need to do a lot better than that.

In a week, I will be meeting with my provincial and territorial counterparts in Calgary for our annual meeting. I sincerely hope that we will make progress in improving credential recognition and mobility for professionals across provinces. I have already had discussions with them, and I am very hopeful.

Next is modernizing regulations.

Last month, I visited Moderna's new plant in Laval with Minister Joly. We need more investments like this here in Canada.

That's why we're cutting unnecessary red tape and speeding up and updating approval processes. We're doing this for drug approvals.

Investments in health care in Canada protect patients and increase access to care. They also create growth and good jobs and reduce our reliance on other countries.

We are also working with the Pest Management Regulatory Agency and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency to reduce red tape for farmers.

Next is digital health.

While people are at the heart of our health care system, tools and innovations also play an important role.

Even though 95% of doctors use electronic medical records, they are often not integrated with each other or with the rest of the system. This creates unnecessary barriers and burdens, particularly in isolated rural communities and indigenous communities.

Data saves lives and, by leveraging AI, we can make technology work for people, improve lives, improve care and build a health system ready for the future. I look forward to working with you on passing legislation to improve connectivity and data sharing across this country.

On mental health—

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Excuse me. I think there might be a problem.

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We're getting French on the English channel.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Is this good?

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Thank you.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Before closing, there is one issue I would like to raise with this group. This summer, I did a tour, and there was one topic that came up again and again: mental health.

Mental health has been putting immense pressure on our health care system over the last few years.

We are facing a mental health and addiction crisis here in Canada. There is no quick fix, but we must do something to improve the situation. It is essential for the well-being of Canadians, and also for building a stronger Canada.

Mental illness costs an estimated $65 billion a year in Canada alone. We must all work together—parliamentarians, doctors, nurses, community organizations, provinces and territories—to address this issue.

I would also like to talk to you about the Canadian Dental Care Plan.

Exactly one week ago, we announced that over 5 million Canadians were now enrolled in the program and eligible for dental care, including over 2 million people in Ontario alone, 1.5 million in Quebec, 138,000 in Manitoba, 338,000 people in Alberta and 685,000 people in British Columbia. Of the Canadians enrolled, 2.8 million have already received care, and the program saves them an average of $800 per year.

In addition, 98% of dentists across the country participate in this program.

This is good news for Canadians across the country.

In closing, I would like to point out that in 2024, the health sector in Canada contributed $301 billion to our GDP. This sector accounts for 3.5 million jobs, or 15% of the Canadian workforce.

Let's not forget that to contribute to their communities and keep our economy strong, Canadians must be healthy. I am here today surrounded by several health officials so that we can work together to achieve this goal.

I would be happy to answer your questions.

Thank you very much for your attention.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Thank you, Minister.

We'll start with a round of questioning by me for six minutes.

Minister, Health Canada approves supervised consumption sites across Canada. Do you personally review the applications before they're approved by the department, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Supervised consumption sites receive an exemption from Health Canada. These programs are funded by the provinces and territories.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Do you personally review the applications, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Applications submitted to the department are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, always in consultation with the provinces, territories, organizations in the field and public safety and security officials.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Okay. There's something going on with my mic here too, so I'll ask the question again.

Do you personally review the applications before they're approved by the department, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

Applications are reviewed by the departments.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

You've never seen them.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I just told you that applications are reviewed by the departments. There is a process in place. They are reviewed one by one.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

Okay, so you do not personally review those applications.

Minister, are you aware that fentanyl is the most used drug in the supervised consumption sites that your department approves, yes or no?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

According to the figures we have seen, which have also been made public, fentanyl is one of the most commonly used drugs in supervised consumption sites.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

How much fentanyl is consumed in the federally supervised consumption sites?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

At supervised consumption sites, people do consume illegal drugs. However, you must understand that supervised consumption sites were created first and foremost to save lives. I would say that they have prevented 68,000 deaths.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

That wasn't the question.

How much fentanyl is consumed in federally approved supervised consumption sites? Do you know?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

As I just told you, fentanyl is the most commonly used drug in these sites, but there are certainly other drugs that are used there. I would say that—

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

You don't know the amount. You don't know how much.

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

—the federal government grants exemptions. These sites are administered by the provinces and territories.

The Vice-Chair Conservative Dan Mazier

How much fentanyl is used in these sites?

Marjorie Michel Liberal Papineau, QC

I will ask the deputy minister if he can answer that question.