Health Committee on Oct. 9th, 2025

[Kendal Weber]

They do include pipes.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Thank you.

How many pipes were distributed through these federally approved supervised consumption sites last year?

[Kendal Weber]

Thank you for the question. I should also note, though, that restrictions with SCS regarding inhalation do depend on whether there's a bylaw in that jurisdiction—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

How many pipes? The question was this: How many pipes were distributed through this federally approved site?

[Kendal Weber]

Thank you for the question. I'll make the point that we don't actually have a lot of SCS that have approved inhalation. I would have to come back to you with that answer about pipes, because inhalation and smoking in SCS is very limited across the country due to municipal bylaws.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

The crack pipes and the needles, do you collect that data?

[Kendal Weber]

No.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

You don't.

[Kendal Weber]

The exemption is for the use of a controlled substance—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Do you not collect that data?

[Kendal Weber]

—in a supervised consumption site.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Yes.

[Kendal Weber]

The supervised consumption site exemption is separate from the provision of harm reduction supplies in the supervised consumption site and the health services. We provide an exemption for the use of a controlled substance that the individual brings into the site to reduce overdose, and then those services will also—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

I know, but that wasn't my question.

[Kendal Weber]

I'm sorry.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

How many needles were distributed through the federally approved supervised consumption sites last year? Do you collect that data?

[Kendal Weber]

The needle distribution is separate from the actual supervised consumption site exemption, so—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Do you collect that data, yes or no? It's one question.

[Kendal Weber]

It's unrelated. The supervised consumption site—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

It doesn't matter that it's not related. Do you collect the data? This is a simple question.

[Kendal Weber]

The supervised consumption site is an exemption for the use of a controlled substance. Under the practitioner—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

That isn't the answer to my yes-or-no question.

[Maggie Chi, Liberal, Don Valley North, ON]

I have a point of order, Chair. Can we just let the witness speak so we can...?

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

She's not answering my question, and I'm the chair, so I guess I have a say in this.

[Maggie Chi, Liberal, Don Valley North, ON]

Maybe she's getting there. Just giving her an opportunity to get to her thought out would be appreciated by both sides. Thank you.