Quite clearly, the answer is that the minister said they're going to have national programs. If you don't have programs at the base—and that's both in workplace and community, because we know there are a lot of people excluded from the workplace, which I just referenced.... So you have to have both. You can't do one without the other; it's not an either/or. You need both and you need them at the base, as well as the national work that supports the people doing the on-the-ground work.
On October 17th, 2006. See this statement in context.