I would say they would be for the employer who encourages their workers, and there has to be accountability here. It's not just handing out money. There needs to be a demonstration that in fact they're doing this. For the employer who encourages their workers to participate, what can we do to make it worthwhile for them?
There's a company called Elmsdale Lumber. They've already bought into workplace education and they've seen the value. The value is that the lumber they produce has benefited because of the workers' skills in various areas.