Okay. That was just a clarification.
My second point. I know in terms of the way it was addressed today, when it comes to older workers...I'm making the assumption from all I've heard today that even though we have a large group of older workers who are prepared, we talked about ones that obviously need transition skills. There really is a mindset out there in the workplace. That's really what we're battling, the bias of the mentality right now that we're not able to use these workers because the workplace is not ready for them.
We haven't come to a place where we think of what a great resource we have in older workers, that we could use the brain trust, if I can use that term, of years of experience. You're suggesting education for small businesses. Do we need to come to a place, do you think, where we get to 3%--which is less than no unemployment--before people start to figure out there are other ways? Is the situation not bad enough yet that people are saying we need to...?