That's the first question.
Mr. Caplan, like you, I come from a background as a municipal councillor. I spent five years in Barrie and I can appreciate what you're saying, seen from the perspective of a city councillor.
There's a second question I would like people to comment on. In Montreal on Wednesday, the committee wanted deputations from the CFIB, the Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses. They said that because of tax rates, small businesses in particular aren't given enough revenue that they can actually invest in training. They said a cut to small business taxes will lead to more money for training.
Could I have comments on both the collaboration and what the CFIB said about small business taxes?