Yes, thank you.
Very briefly, first of all, I'm not here to disagree with anybody. I really appreciate the comments that are made. I am not in favour of any kind of paralysis. I think we need to take poverty seriously. There are people who are really disadvantaged in Canada. So I want to make that clear.
The issue of data, I think, is a serious one. I think we have to take a closer look at it. I'm not convinced that databases drawn from tax data or any other kind of source that we have conventionally are going to do it. I don't know that that's accurate, but I think it needs to be looked at.
Finally, I think one way to do that is to take a suggestion that was made earlier today, and that is a national anti-poverty strategy. In such a strategy, all researchers could take a closer look and have a good debate about what is and what is not valid. The ultimate goal is to help those people who are in difficulty, and I think we're all on the same side on that one.