I know it's awful. It's an awful, painful experience. But sometimes that jars the parties into thinking, “What have we done? Where have we gone? Let's bring this back together and find a solution.” That's why we know, and are convinced, that if we can take away that impediment, it will create more balance and you'll have more amicable relations.
For my friend who has CAW members at this airline and says he's never had a strike, give us a break; we're doing something right if we haven't even had a strike and we're working things out. So let's not try to look—