You talk about smaller bargaining units. This is a team sport. You don't operate the railway by separate unions. You think about the T and E, who are technical people—our signalmen, for example, and crossing signals and the whole signalling system on the railway. It's not a very big union compared to the overall unions. They're not transportation people. They're very much tied to the railway itself. But you cannot operate the railway without having signals, obviously, so that's very important.
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