Thank you, Mr. Chair. Ms. Israel's answer to Mr. Lake's question doesn't appear to apply here. I refer you back to the text of the bill, which states:
(2) If a person has received or obtained a benefit payment to which the person is not entitled, or a benefit payment in excess of the amount of a benefit payment to which the person is entitled, the amount of the benefit payment or the excess amount, as the case may be, constitutes a debt due to Her Majesty and is recoverable at any time [...]
In other words, if that debt dates back eight or nine years, retroactivity could be eight or nine years. Ms. Israel answered that the repayment of what is owed would be spread over a longer period. However, that is not entirely correct. At line 41 of Clause 4, which we're changing here, we're talking about retroactive liability. That's very different. Ms. Israel's answer doesn't apply here.
The same is true of the answer she gave our colleague Ms. Dhalla.