Thank you, Madam Chair.
We've all heard the testimony here today about the need for a national child care program, with the exception of that of Mr. Dinsdale, who had more of a nuanced argument. He argued that aboriginal Canadians have greater needs, and therefore a universal program that is providing equal access would not be the best design for aboriginal communities. And furthermore, as we all know, on-reserve child care is an intra vires federal responsibility.
I want to direct my questions to the other four groups appearing in front of us today. You've all argued for what some have termed a universal program. Others have called it a national program.
My first question is for the Rural Voices for Early Childhood Education and Care. You've argued that it's not socially responsible to leave it to the province or territory alone. So is it your view that a national child care program should include Canadians living in all 10 provinces? Or would it be acceptable to you to have the national--?