I'll comment very briefly there, Mr. Chairman.
The issue is that today employers pay a premium of 40%, essentially 1.4 times what employees pay, and that's been going on for over 30 years. The rationale for that, as I mentioned earlier, in my view is no longer there. We would suggest that the appropriate level of payment is one where you drive that 1.4 number down over a series of years so that it becomes equal to what employees pay.