The fact is that the premiums have gone down and the benefits have gone down. It would seem to me that there should be, at this point in time, a restructuring to say that we have this notional surplus, an actual surplus each year. It's not accumulated; it goes in and out of the consolidated revenue fund. But it has been mainly at the expense of people on the benefit side, much more so than on the premium side.
On March 6th, 2008. See this statement in context.