Yes, many years ago. You're right.
But he did a study on poverty. I referred to some of the things he talked about--the changes to the EI program and some provincial changes to welfare, which he said contributed to an increase in employment and a decrease in poverty.
But one of the points he makes as well is about people who are not “employable”, and how--I don't want to put words in his mouth--sometimes when we put too much focus on helping people who are employable, thinking that we're doing the right thing, perhaps we don't have the resources left to help the people who are truly not employable, the people who need the help the most.
I've heard a lot of talk from all of the witnesses today in that area, how there are certain groups of people who need specific help. I'd like your comment on that, in terms of that balance and how we manage those public dollars.