FCM believes that municipalities are an order of government, but they are clearly within provincial jurisdiction. However, having said that, we believe that the problem of poverty and eradicating poverty is so large, and it has such a significant impact on national prosperity, that it is going to require the participation of all three orders of government. Having said that, we are always very careful and always very clear in saying that federal support for, in this case, poverty reduction in cities and communities must always respect provincial jurisdiction over cities and communities.
In terms of how that's done, whether it's federal–provincial programs or federal transfers to provinces so they can run their own programs, we don't get involved in that because federal–provincial relations are outside of the scope of our organization. So I wouldn't want to comment specifically on that. The message I would leave is that we do believe these kinds of problems are large enough, and the impacts are national in scope, that each order of government has a very important part to play.
How those parts are played out—transfers versus federal–provincial programs—we'll leave that up to federal and provincial governments.