I have never said that! I have never talked about going and collecting $4 billion from taxpayers. We have never said that. Why is he saying that, Mr. Chair? I repeat: out of respect for the organizations here, we have to refrain from playing this game. We have to listen to what they have to say to us and ask them about what they have told us, Mr. Chair, and not try to interpret and state falsehoods to try to influence the opinion of the people here. Mr. Chair, I am not playing that and I would like to see these games not be permitted here.
