I don't have those numbers. I know that the Province of Ontario claims the federal government owes them a few billion dollars to recoup some of the costs of this.
What has been an important issue for me, if you really want to look at the numbers and costs, is that many of these people come here and provide full-time day care for their grandchildren. And, Ms. Dhalla, considering that day care is your issue, you know what it costs to provide subsidized day care and day care facilities for people who would qualify. I think that offsets many of the costs that the government has never even had to address.
So if we look at these people as being an added burden to the government, I think we're wrong; I think they save the government a tremendous amount of money on day care.