Okay. It's just that it sounds as though this has been going on for some time.
Just quickly, there are one or two other things. I'll ask both questions so you can answer quickly. One has to do with the wage earner protection program. I wonder, given the environment and the economic situation, if you could give us an idea of how many workers in fact have benefited from this plan thus far and how well it's working.
The other question has to do with worker replacement. Given the fact that Telus had problems and was bringing in workers from the U.S. and all over the place when they had a lockout, could you tell us if this program has had a review recently and whether workers have been used to undermine trade unions' capacity to engage in bargaining and represent their members?