I hear you, and I've heard you say that over and over again in the House. But the folks out there who are analyzing this and working with people on the front lines who are trying to get EI so they can pay their rent and feed their families are saying differently. The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, for example, was here last week suggesting we have a huge crisis that could be stopped. It seems to me that as Canadian citizens we should have the right to timely access to programs like EI when we need them. We obviously differ on statistics.
It's interesting that this morning I read in the paper that one of your own, Ms. Elliott, who is running for the leadership of the Conservative Party in Ontario, agrees with our position on this. She thinks Ontario is being discriminated against where this is concerned.
You talked about an investment in skills and training of $8.3 billion. In the Sault, we've had an increase of 31% in people collecting EI. We have a number of factories that have not stopped work completely but are slowing down. They would like to take you up on the training and skills development. They'd like to train their people, so that when they come out of this recession they'll be ready to go. But so far we've not been able to determine how we access that money, through the province or the federal government. It's not clear where the money is to come from or when it might be available. Maybe you could enlighten us.