Sure, but I still would like to say something about the transfers. I personally believe there should be some level of responsibility associated with the transfers. If they are meant to do something, there should be conditions to make sure that those things are happening. If there's money transferred for child care, for instance, I would like to see conditions, to make sure that we have the same level of standards across the country. This is not the coalition's standpoint, necessarily, because we don't really have to discuss these kinds of issues, but personally, I think it would be important.
Moving on to pay equity, I believe unions have a role to play in participating in pay equity programs. They shouldn't have an option to get out of working towards pay equity, pay equity being a human right. On the other hand, I think the ultimate responsibility falls on the shoulders of the employers.
Really, it would be false to pretend that employees and employers have the same level of power. Being an employee, I think that would be great from my point of view, but the reality is that employers have the final say on what pay is, so really, the employer should be responsible for pay equity. That's even more important because not everybody is unionized, so if you're looking at pay equity for the public and private sectors, you really need to ensure that employees who are not unionized have access to pay equity.
Again, I want to emphasize that pay equity is a human right. It's been recognized internationally for decades now.