There are countless examples of programs, particularly for low-income people to access post-secondary education or literacy and bridging programs. They are not quite as radical as that, but certainly....
We'll use Burns Lake, B.C., as another example. There were 20 students in an aboriginal-based community learning program for community health care. There were 20 different funding mechanisms for those learners. They each had to figure out which one they might be eligible for and which one would make sure they didn't lose the benefits for their children through the differences in the living cost allowances. That's one of the key points we've made.
One of the examples, the model in Saskatchewan, has done a harmonization of their various programs to eliminate some of the inequities in linking that to some of the federal programs on inequities to alleviate.... Actually, in the mid-1980s there was a pilot project between the federal government and the provincial government there to look at ways that they could test how you could enable people on social assistance programs to go to bridging programs and post-secondary education without losing their social welfare benefits. We had the fortune of being a pilot institution for that, and we had huge success. There was quite a difference in terms of the students who were coming through that funding mechanism and their success and the success of their children.