Thank you, Josephine.
We have to go to a couple of site visits shortly. I'll finish up with a couple of quick questions, and we may not use the seven minutes, but then we'll have to say our farewells to our panellists here today.
My first question is to John.
In terms of sustaining social programs in the future, because some of the academics write of a demographic winter in Canada and a birth rate decline all across the country, it's more in replacing ourselves at this point, but it's moving progressively down. I want to bring that together with a suggestion that came from Judit and Elita, the eleventh recommendation, on maternity benefits being de-linked from EI and made available to all women. I know countries such France, Japan, and elsewhere have had to think of this in terms of the demographic. How do we sustain our programs for the future unless by immigration, or an increased birth rate, or such policies as Judit and Elita have suggested? How do we sustain it? Do you see some foreboding, some difficulty ahead, in terms of the sustaining of our workforce?