We spend a lot of time and a lot of resources in trying to recruit young people. They say that if you're trying to recruit someone into the trades in high school, you are five or six years too late. You should be starting in grade 5, grade 6. We're actually trying to get some programs going that do this.
By putting the training that a young person gets in the trades on par with other secondary school education, that is, by the provision of some grants, some incentives to go to school, by perhaps service scholarships, as has been done in Saskatchewan.... There are a number of things that can be done. We've been to your committee a number of times in the past and mentioned mobility incentives, training incentives. In fact, your committee has even come out and made some recommendations that have adopted some of the things we've suggested. Unfortunately, none of the recommendations has ever seemed to find their way into law. They've just been recommendations.