The problem is that it is all speculative. We can do some calculations based on the experience in Quebec, but even that has some unknowns about it. The rising birth rate, while minimal but still evident, can equally be attributed to a stronger child care system there. Who knows?
When it comes to the sick benefit and compassionate care benefit, we've been given no examples of where it exists anywhere else in the world. I saw a reference to California, but that is a different system and it's not done through EI. I don't know how we get there.
I did a quick calculation of somebody with a $30,000-a-year income. With the kinds of premiums that are projected, again by the budget office, it's going to take a couple of decades for that individual--