Well, she didn't want to give us a cost. We've asked her that question. It was only after some questions that we got the cost from you, for which we are appreciative.
Let me ask you this.
One of the real concerns we have is that this is going to be a drain, conceivably, on the EI fund as it exists today, that regular EI payers who are already going to be facing a significant drawdown on the $2 billion that is going to be transferred over may end up having a further drain on the EI fund because of this program. We think the program is good. I asked the minister if she would assure the committee that if there was an overdraft, if you will, on self-employed.... We're not saying don't give EI to the self-employed, but pay that out of general revenue, as you did with the extra five weeks in January.
If the program has a surplus, which it has to for the first few years--by its very nature, people have to pay in for 12 months before they get money out--does that surplus go into the EI fund? Does it come off the $2 billion? How does that work?