Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thanks to our witnesses for the information.
I know it's a very challenging topic and it's one that has been studied for many years. With respect to my honourable colleague across the way, for 13 years they had a chance to deal with the issue, and it continues to spiral out of control.
We've been investing, as you indicated, over $13 billion to help children. As a grandfather of a two-year-old, I appreciate the opportunity for my daughter and the father to make a choice in child care. Other Canadians appreciate that opportunity as well.
I also acknowledge that we have the intangibles. Some of the subjectives are hard to point out. As you indicated, you don't necessarily know who receives the benefit. It's a very difficult task to pin down.
Maybe I'm just expounding on my question: why doesn't Canada have an official measure of poverty?