Actually, it's interesting you'd raise that. Some years ago when I was working at the National Council of Welfare, there was controversy over LICO. That was 25 years ago. It's always been a controversial measure. At the time, the Gallup organization used to publish a poll every year, and the question was something like “What is absolutely the least amount of money that a family of four or five”--a couple with two kids or whatever--“needs to just get by in our society?” They asked people. They averaged. They got a very precise number. When I compare that number to the LICO--the low-income cut-off, which is a very complicated and kind of strange, weird measure--it was so close it was eerie. It was as if the LICO were very close to--
On March 10th, 2009. See this statement in context.