There you go. So that's an important note there for the record.
The bill is about a matter of fairness. I think we can achieve that through this particular bill to ensure that the families or those closely related are not hard done by and that they are actually able to receive what they had before the incarceration, and perhaps more. So there is an element of compassion to the families, at the same time respecting the points of view of the victims of that particular prisoner, but others as well. This doesn't just apply to victims of the prisoner, but it's victims generally who are affected by what they see.
And in Kevin's case it was interesting. I wonder if the reaction of the Canadian public doesn't have a lot to do with Mr. Savage wanting to swiftly pass this bill and others climbing on board. I'm not sure if it was a petition you had posted, but I gathered from you that the speed at which you received significant numbers of petitioners and their response in such a short period of time was indicative that this touched a nerve or a raw spot with Canadians.
Maybe I can ask you specifically, what do you think the reaction of the Canadians was to the news that they had heard that there were prisoners actually receiving old age security? And by the reaction you got to the petition, what was your sense of what Canadians were trying to say?