It isn't what we're hearing from the advocates out there, who are saying that the money just isn't flowing, the houses aren't getting built. We're doing a study here at this committee of poverty, and one of the things we've heard over and over again as we've travelled across the country is the need for affordable social housing and that there is no affordable social housing going up. We get hopeful when we hear in budgets and stimulus announcements that in fact there are billions of dollars being set aside and budgeted for housing. And then we hear from people, and we actually feel it ourselves in our own communities. I have two first nations in my own backyard. No new housing going up there. We have a city of 75,000 where we have almost a zero vacancy rate and no housing. We applied for two and got turned down. We now have seven in, and we're hoping that maybe out of those, we'll get one or maybe two.
I'm also hearing from across northern Ontario particularly, which is what I can speak to most knowledgeably, that we were lucky if we got two or three units or projects announced. So what you're saying and what the government is saying in terms of budget is one thing; what's happening out on the ground it seems to me, from what I'm being told and seeing personally, is another thing.