Okay, thank you very much. I don't think we have much in the way of disagreement there. I appreciate your good words there. Certainly I think governments at different levels, federal, provincial, and municipal governments, need to and certainly do what they can and should be investing in the lives, broken lives if you will, of those who have been perpetrators of crime as well. So I think we have agreement there.
I would like to ask a question along a different line. This question I think is germane to the bill. The person who took your daughter's life—I don't know the circumstances there, but I assume it was somebody taking your daughter's life—in your view, is that person a “victim”? Do you consider that person and their family victims of crime? The person who perpetrated the crime against your daughter, is that person a victim and that person's family also victims of crime?