Thank you, Madam Chair.
I find it interesting that when we've had witnesses here we get into what types of questions should be on the form, and which of those questions should be mandatory. It's a bit confusing. I'm sure people don't mean to be misleading. We all have different types of questions we think would be valuable.
That's not the nature of the discussion here today. I have a lot of sympathy for calculating and getting a handle on unpaid work. In our household, my wife gives me part of the cheque. She does a deposit, and I end up getting a bit at the end of the day. But that's fair. She takes care of all the other good things in the running of our household.
As for the questions people would like to see on the census survey, there are various suggestions from various groups. Certainly there are forums for that to percolate and work its way up. You folks here as witnesses, and others we've had, are aware of that. Some may not be. But there's a process for it. If you were to include all of those questions, with no end to the questions, it could become a long, long, long-form census. We could add to it no end.
I do want to say, though, that I'm a little confused. It has often come up that there are certain more vulnerable groups—low-income groups, groups living in poverty—that typically don't fill in the census. I don't understand the logic of threatening these people, who are the most vulnerable in society. We threaten them with a jail term, which they say doesn't take place. But we punish them with big fines. What's the logic behind that?
You don't need to respond now.
The fact that these groups—