Mr. Martin, I'd like to also address that, if I could.
We don't need to be pitted against one another, and that is the political climate that is happening right now from both sides. Nobody's particularly at fault. I completely understand and empathize with the first nations, who don't want to lose their children and their culture.
What I know is that if my kid has to be locked in a closet by her mother—her birth mother—to keep her safe, she's at risk. And she needs to be cared for and given permanency and security when her birth mother cannot give it to her. That's the crisis that's happening right now for many of our children. That's a reality.
You know what? Neglect does even more damage than abuse of a physical or sexual nature, in many cases. The research shows us that, too. This is not neglect because people want to be neglecting their children.
They are absolutely right. Cindy and the other witness you heard from this morning are absolutely right about the need for prevention and poverty reduction and support for first nations individuals and families. But we also need to keep those children safe. We don't have any legislative barriers in our country to interracial marriage. Why do we have legislative and political barriers to interracial families? We can be inclusive.