I'd like to cover a misconception. Air Canada's pilots union is against our continuing to fly past 60. But this is not the case with the vast majority of unions in Canada, for example, WestJet.
WestJet wanted their pilots to have the opportunity to continue flying past the age of 60. Air Canada Jazz, which at one time was part of the Air Canada family, also wanted to have their pilots fly past the age of 60, and they approached the company. So Air Canada's pilots union is in a minority. Most of the unions want to give their older pilots the opportunity to fly if they're competent and medically fit. We are not in a minority by asking for this privilege.