I think you're moving to a place where you're saying you've got a whole host of programs. Maybe we need to bring all these programs to a point where you guarantee a certain income and eliminate a lot of this. But you're dealing with two jurisdictions, the provincial jurisdiction and the federal jurisdiction. And somehow you're going to have to arrive at a place where the whole of government--federal, provincial, territorial--is rejigged to bring you to the place where perhaps the same amount of money is spent, but in a smarter and better fashion.
How do you propose this might be accomplished?