We have a little bit of a different perspective on that, but I won't go there.
Let me say, however, that this comes from a subcommittee on cities. We started at the local level in our examination of this. We feel a lot of the answers are at the local level--through the provinces, of course, because that's the proper route. At the local level, not just the municipal governments but the people in organizations know a lot of the needs and a lot of the answers. We found a lot of passion out there amongst those people at the local level who are providing good programs to lift people out of poverty.