In this holistic measurement, they speak about, for example, sources and domains of knowledge, exposure to elders, time spent with elders, use of traditional skills, participation in cultural ceremonies. They've taken this and they've worked with your office, and other aboriginal organizations, to try to come up with a way of measuring.
This is a bit of a political issue that we don't need to get into now, but CCL is losing its funding. They were funded for five years. They were allowed to exist on fumes for a year, and now they're gone, except for some funding from outside of Canada. I think it's a shame. Obviously some of the work they've done has been very innovative in trying to identify how we close the gap on education attainment between Canada's aboriginal and non-aboriginal people.
It's not so much what happens in terms of graduating from university but how we assure they get that opportunity to get to university. I recognize that the Métis have not been part of the PSSSP and other things like that, which probably they should be.
Anyway, it seems to be a shame that we're going to lose the opportunity to evaluate innovative approaches to looking at aboriginal learning, which would eventually certainly have an impact on poverty.