Well, sir, it's either the provinces or the federal government. It's one of the two; take your pick. You're a federal member of Parliament. It's either one or the other.
No matter what, in a lot of cases the provinces do pay by way of social assistance. I would say that anybody who builds up a number of fines that they have not paid does not deserve to have benefits, such as having the benefit of applying for 104 weeks. I think people have to be accountable, and I think there have been many excuses over many years.
Actually, a member of our board was an offender for many years, and his last sentence was a 10-year sentence. It was a robbery. He said, “There came a time in my life when I had to stop doing what I was doing.” It has been 35 years now and he's been out of prison, but he was in and out. His sentence was 10 years, and Corrections wanted him to take early parole, and he refused. He said, “If 10 years is what my penalty is, then I will serve my full 10 years.” He actually had to fight to stay in prison for 10 years.
There are a lot of people who really can change. We're talking about people who are incarcerated for less than a year. I understand that, but like I said, the money has to come from someplace, and it's either the provincial government or the federal government.