I guess the best example of a program is the Centres of Excellence for Commercialization and Research. There are 22 now across Canada that were provided up to $15 million, not to support research, but to support all the activities surrounding it to get it to market—not only to market it but to make an impact in the health field.
It's a fairly new program, and it has been a rich source of examples. They are quite a diverse group, and we're learning a lot about the types of approaches that work well or not. The most difficult part is having a good core of executives who can decide if an idea is something that has legs in an industrial setting. Although an idea is quite interesting and is leading-edge research, we’re not sure there's a market for it. That's the challenge. But what these centres bring is all the other skills that academics may not have—there are always exceptions—such as the business plan and the marketing, even approaching venture capitalists and securing that next round of funding. So these are a policy experiment, if you will, for us to see what kind of approaches work in helping get academic discoveries into the marketplace.