Well, I think there have been many success stories. Working with the private sector is a contact sport, if you use that analogy. You really need to have very close interaction and to develop a working relationship between academia and industry. It takes time to do that. You start small, and then develop a trust relationship, and then build on from that.
Funding is certainly helping, and over the years we have changed our focus and have come to better understand the key role of effective relationships in transferring knowledge, in working across academia and the private sector. That's where we've been focusing our energies more recently: developing those relationships and helping those relationships to happen.