No. Actually, Sarah's addressed that fairly well.
The issue is that apprenticeship is just the journey. As an employer, I'm hiring an apprentice for the journeyperson I need four and a half years out in our workforce plan. So again, we're planning ahead.
Now, as we've heard and as was addressed in the brief, sometimes those opportunities change, so the apprentice is stuck now with an employer in transition. On a regional basis, if southern Ontario's economy goes south in the steel industry, and I want to go finish my apprenticeship in the west, I might find out that I have to repeat my second year of trade school, because they don't recognize it. They consider it different, because it's provincial.
With the Red Seal, once I have it, I'm good. But as an apprentice, I'm left stranded without much support.