Yes. United Mine Workers are not so much now.
When we looked at trades development, it wasn't uncommon to hire a barefaced miner—somebody to work in the pit—and then put him into an industrial apprenticeship program. He wouldn't be ready to write a Red Seal ticket for electrical, but he'd learn the electrical trade as it applies to what's required within a mine.
Does any of that go on within the industry now, or is that back some time ago?