No, that still happens. What we're trying to do is create a national recognition program for miners. Up until very recently there was none of that, nothing existed. There was no recognition whatsoever. If your employer or the mine closed, you left with nothing—no ticket, no paper.
Part of the work of the council is to create the first pan-Canadian certification program to allow an individual who wants to stay as a miner to still feel valued in the occupation and not feel like they need to move to a skilled trade and work to become an electrician or a millwright. To be honest, we're the first country to do this. We have interest now from about a half-dozen other countries that are looking to implement a certification program for miners, diamond drillers, and mineral process operators in their respective countries.