Good.
You mentioned Hydro-Québec as a pretty good partner. What we're seeing is that a lot of apprenticeships aren't being realized, for example, going through and becoming a full-fledged journeyman. A lot of it is in the tracking of that individual after they leave the institution. It goes off the rails there in a lot of cases.
You indicated that you have some good partnerships with industry. What companies out there are doing a really good job, are committed to the same types of outcomes as your organization is? Who can we use as a template to say who's doing it right?